Comments on: Poem: Times go by Turns http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/ away beyond many a far meridian Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Poem: Scorn Not the Least at Vukutu http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-409 Poem: Scorn Not the Least at Vukutu Thu, 07 May 2009 22:08:05 +0000 http://www.vukutu.com/blog/?p=189#comment-409 [...] previous poem by Robert Southwell can be found here, and all previous poetry posts [...] [...] previous poem by Robert Southwell can be found here, and all previous poetry posts [...]

]]> By: Knowing and understanding The Other at Vukutu http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Knowing and understanding The Other at Vukutu Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:07:17 +0000 http://www.vukutu.com/blog/?p=189#comment-92 [...] rule of Elizabeth I’s police-state in 16th century England (among whose victims was Robert Southwell), and of the anarchist and revolutionary socialist campaigns of terror and assassination in the [...] [...] rule of Elizabeth I’s police-state in 16th century England (among whose victims was Robert Southwell), and of the anarchist and revolutionary socialist campaigns of terror and assassination in the [...]

]]> By: Peter http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Peter Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:16:30 +0000 http://www.vukutu.com/blog/?p=189#comment-90 Good question, Jared. I don't know the answer. The late Anne Sweeney (in the book I refer to in the post) argues that Southwell developed personation in his poetry as a direct result of completing the <i>Spiritual Exercises</i> of St. Ignatius Lopez of Loyala, a process of meditation and self-reflection which all Jesuits undertake. In her words (p. 80): <i>"The core experience of the Ignatian Exercises was the reading and learning of the hidden self, the exercisant learning to define his reponses according to a Christian morality that would then moderate his behaviour. After a powerfully imagined involvement in, say, Christ's birth, he was required to withdraw the mind's eye from the scene before him and redirect it into himself to analyse with care the feelings thereby aroused."</i> It would be interesting to know if Ignatius himself drew on literary models from (eg) Basque, Catalan or Spanish in devising the <i>Exercises</i>. Good question, Jared. I don’t know the answer. The late Anne Sweeney (in the book I refer to in the post) argues that Southwell developed personation in his poetry as a direct result of completing the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Lopez of Loyala, a process of meditation and self-reflection which all Jesuits undertake. In her words (p. 80):

“The core experience of the Ignatian Exercises was the reading and learning of the hidden self, the exercisant learning to define his reponses according to a Christian morality that would then moderate his behaviour. After a powerfully imagined involvement in, say, Christ’s birth, he was required to withdraw the mind’s eye from the scene before him and redirect it into himself to analyse with care the feelings thereby aroused.”

It would be interesting to know if Ignatius himself drew on literary models from (eg) Basque, Catalan or Spanish in devising the Exercises.

]]> By: Jared http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Jared Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:17:52 +0000 http://www.vukutu.com/blog/?p=189#comment-89 When was personation first used in the poetry of any language? When was personation first used in the poetry of any language?

]]> By: Poem: Pied Beauty at Vukutu http://www.vukutu.com/blog/2008/11/poem-times-go-by-turns/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Poem: Pied Beauty at Vukutu Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:37:40 +0000 http://www.vukutu.com/blog/?p=189#comment-72 [...] Following Times go by Turns by Robert Southwell last week, this week a poet greatly influenced by Southwell, and a fellow-Jesuit, Gerard Manley Hopkins (1844-1889).  One of Southwell’s syntactic innovations was repitition:  writing several nouns or phrases one after another, in order to add emphasis.  Hopkins does the same in Pied Beauty, another poem for this northern autumn season. [...] [...] Following Times go by Turns by Robert Southwell last week, this week a poet greatly influenced by Southwell, and a fellow-Jesuit, Gerard Manley Hopkins (1844-1889).  One of Southwell’s syntactic innovations was repitition:  writing several nouns or phrases one after another, in order to add emphasis.  Hopkins does the same in Pied Beauty, another poem for this northern autumn season. [...]

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